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Post by VectorX on Dec 3, 2011 1:16:25 GMT -5
Although I don't know what a scope tube is, it's neat to check this out!
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Post by vectrexmad on Dec 4, 2011 14:16:48 GMT -5
Although I don't know what a scope tube is, it's neat to check this out! A scope tube means it is a cathode ray tube from an oscilloscope. An oscilloscope graphically displays signal amplitudes as vectors and is used for diagnosis of electronic circuits. The CRT on an oscilloscope works as a vector display, in exactly the same way as a vector monitor or Vectrex monitor. When Smith Engineering were first prototyping the Vectrex console and early games, they used oscilloscopes for the display. |
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Post by VectorX on Dec 4, 2011 14:24:02 GMT -5
Ah, the old "Vectrex on an oscilloscope" again!
If those manufacturers would just make some flat-out vector monitors again...
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Post by VectorGamer on Dec 8, 2011 13:00:23 GMT -5
If those manufacturers would just make some flat-out vector monitors again... Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens in the area of video for classic arcade game restoration. LCD looks like crap for raster graphics. Yet, they are so easy to install with a 60-in-1 board it's no wonder you see Pac-Man cabs converted to 60-in-1s popping up like weeds. With MAME, LCD looks OK for Vector games if you tweak the settings just right. I've been told that ACAM at FunSpot installed some LCDs for vector arcade PBCs but I'm not knowledgeable as to how that's converted nor have I seen these cabinets on my last visit. In 50 years, how much do you think a) a brand new 19" CRT arcade monitor would cost (for purchase or manufacture per unit) b) it would cost to have an 80 year old arcade monitor chassis repaired, assuming that there still may be humans on the planet capable and skilled in the trade |
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Post by VectorX on Dec 8, 2011 13:20:49 GMT -5
Yet, they are so easy to install with a 60-in-1 board it's no wonder you see Pac-Man cabs converted to 60-in-1s popping up like weeds. Yeah, there's always one or two at an annual gaming expo I attend here in town. Last month I played Pleiades, Donkey Kong 3, Time Pilot and Burger Time on one, along with possibly a few other games I'm forgetting. With MAME, LCD looks OK for Vector games if you tweak the settings just right. Yeah some games don't look bad at all. Still not the same though, of course! In 50 years, how much do you think a) a brand new 19" CRT arcade monitor would cost (for purchase or manufacture per unit) I've been meaning to put up a similar post about that elsewhere. Hopefully soon  |
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Post by sj on Dec 9, 2011 9:35:18 GMT -5
How crap do raster graphics look on LCD? Crap enough to put you off buying a 60-in-1 cab?
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Post by sj on Dec 9, 2011 12:59:17 GMT -5
I did a bit of you-tubing to see if I could find a vid of an LCD 60-in-1 in action. I did, and you can quite clearly see the visual differences. The thing I wasn't aware of though is apparently on the I-cade 60-in-1 board (and I don't know if that is the only 60-in-1), the big issue is the sound problems on several of the games. Some are quite heavily distorted... one of which being Scramble - my all-time fave. That's that idea kicked into the long grass.
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Post by VectorX on Dec 9, 2011 13:26:58 GMT -5
Yeah...EXACTLY...Scramble. For some reason the sounds are fried in MAME. I thought of that too immediately before I saw what game you mentioned (seriously!).
And for some reason the warp feature on Pleiades doesn't work either, not here on MAME on this computer I'm using, not on one of the 60-in-1 tabletops I played last month at that gaming expo.
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