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Post by VectorX on Oct 19, 2014 19:19:28 GMT -5
I imagine laseractiveguy will do a video.
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Post by laseractiveguy on Oct 20, 2014 9:12:12 GMT -5
I did get my copy, and I dont need to prove it, although I was thinking about doing a video... but i do have a suggestion for speeding things up, although I dont imagine most of you would agree.
Under normal circumstances, I would think the original price tag of $65.00 (USD) is adequate for such a game. However, the setbacks Geroge has encountered seem to be numerous. First off, there has been a cartridge/software issue. Not entirely Georges fault, but it does seem that the programming wasnt totally up to snuff. This wasted a lot of real carts (and/or) time to reprogram and reburn the chips. I know all about programming, if it wanst on a disk of some sort, its a PAIN to redo physical copy. There have been rumors that this was even done more than once... I think there was a report of one person getting 2 redos (a total of 3 carts). Then the debackle of the overlays being shody, this was not Georges fault.
Getting boxes, material, and the time to reprogram the game at least 3 times, with the time to reburn eproms, in addition to his normal every day work schedule... and the controllers/magazine, I can see him being overwhelmed, and quite possibly his budget for the project blown. I even think the magazine was too cheap... 30 dollars for the subscription and a tee-shirt for the initial batch (I was one of them)... i was thinking how much money did he really make on that one? He still has issues to ship for quite some time.
My solution isnt a pretty one, but I think honest since we all know the trouble he has had. My humble oppinion, he should send an email to all the people on the Warrior waiting list having 3 or 4 paragraphs (numbered) telling of his troubles, and then appologize for delay. Its been 2 years overdue. Then, he would ask for an additional $15 dollars to finish production. It would be optional. Despite the promise to ship in numerical order of orginal purchase, those who opted to help George finish the project would be put in line (of course they would get the serial # they were promised). George would also honor the original price if the person did not choose to send additional funds, but they would be done as when he could finish them.
Again, not pretty and not as advertised but fair. As I said in a previous post, I did get mine, but if I did get such an email, I'd also chip in to help him out of his jam.
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iesposta
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Warrior?
Oct 20, 2014 9:27:37 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by iesposta on Oct 20, 2014 9:27:37 GMT -5
I'd go for paying more for Warrior IF I received the Vectrosis Spinner Controller. Lose money on the HARDWARE make it up selling SOFTWARE.
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Post by VectorX on Oct 20, 2014 10:13:25 GMT -5
I did get my copy, and I dont need to prove it, I don't think anyone's questioning you getting it or not, they just want to see more than just the brief video George released a while back.
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Post by gliptitude on Oct 20, 2014 10:27:50 GMT -5
I did get my copy, and I dont need to prove it, although I was thinking about doing a video... You don't have to do anything but i'm sure you can understand some skepticism when the number you claim to have received is more than 100 higher than the previously published highest number, and the rest of us with lower numbers are patiently waiting. Regarding the little extra contribution from customers that you suggest, I don't think it is a terrible idea. But it is also pretty problematic. $65 is about as much as anyone has ever charged for a new game and the fact that most customers have paid (so far) two or three years in advance, can't reasonably be construed as a lack of commitment. Just like there is risk involved in pledging to purchase something that does not yet exist, there is also risk on the developer's side. It's a contract. A more reasonable and i think also equally profitable path would be for him to freely offer refunds to any who want it and to then auction those copies in advance of the sequential shipments. .. It appears that he has already done this once and fetched something like $300 for that copy on ebay. .. Seeing as one of the lucky customers had already done the same thing, i have no problem whatsoever with the developer himself doing it. .. Also with the game being a limited edition, (at least publicly stated to be 150), there are still many people who missed the opportunity to preorder, and would still love to get in on it. There are plenty of options to reintroduce the game and increase sales, some of which have already been done by fury in the past, (extra special limited editions of I, Cyborg..). There is already a precedent for how he can raise more money with the game. .. Something else that he could do, that I'm sure would sell some games and require a minimal amount of effort would be to sell a "Lite" version of the game, without overlay and without the new fancy box. .. If you missed out on the preorders, wouldn't you be willing to pay $40 for a cart only edition that could-ship immediately??? .. I would probably pay that now, eventhough i'm already in line for the real thing.
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Post by VectorX on Oct 20, 2014 10:49:27 GMT -5
You don't have to do anything but i'm sure you can understand some skepticism when the number you claim to have received is more than 100 higher than the previously published highest number, and the rest of us with lower numbers are patiently waiting. With George blocking out several of us that were sending him e-mails recently, it makes me wonder if he's also making people wait that bothered him about it and sent those the game who didn't contact about him their copies first. Something else that he could do, that I'm sure would sell some games and require a minimal amount of effort would be to sell a "Lite" version of the game, without overlay and without the new fancy box. The only problem is that without the overlay you're not going to know where the pits are. Sure, over time and several games' worth of play, you'll get a feel for the area they're in, but they won't be exact.
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Post by vectrexmad on Oct 20, 2014 10:55:03 GMT -5
laseractiveguy, I'm just curious what the Warrior overlay is like? I think that the first run was problematic and was also one of the issues. If yours is ok, it means he fixed that problem, and we're all one step closer to gettig our Warrior copies.
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Post by cNp on Oct 20, 2014 10:59:22 GMT -5
You do have 4 diagonal lines to represent the pit but yes, really the overlay helps a lot... also the calibration requires you to align those diagonal lines with the overlay so...
I could post a vid of the game if there's interest... never did before as didn't want to spoil the surprise for anyone.
cNp
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Post by VectorX on Oct 20, 2014 11:34:37 GMT -5
You do have 4 diagonal lines to represent the pit Thanks, I had forgotten about that.
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Post by christophertumber on Oct 20, 2014 11:59:35 GMT -5
also the calibration requires you to align those diagonal lines with the overlay so... Hmm, interesting idea.
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Post by gauze on Oct 31, 2014 16:07:45 GMT -5
I didn't order this game but on sending him more money, that's craziness. If he made more profit than he originally intended to you think he'd refund people?
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Post by narzod on Nov 1, 2014 2:19:51 GMT -5
The compete lack of honest and forthright communication is the real problem at this point. Keeping his paying customers in the dark about what the situation is, that is disrespectful and inconsiderate to say the least.
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Post by darrin9999 on Nov 1, 2014 11:02:41 GMT -5
Its been so long! I dont know if he still has my email address, did he send me one and It went to my spam folder and I missed it? There is no way to get in touch with him to find out.
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Post by darrin9999 on Nov 1, 2014 11:14:39 GMT -5
I did get my copy, and I dont need to prove it, although I was thinking about doing a video. I just want to see one that has been delivered to a paying customer. So no pic, didn`t happen
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Post by cNp on Nov 1, 2014 13:05:26 GMT -5
A quick video of the 1st CPU opponent: youtu.be/6iKtiTYuo28The flicker in the video is more just a shimmer in real life! cNp
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