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Post by kokovec on Jan 7, 2017 1:07:00 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is the right place to talk about this but I got a Super Retro Trio for Christmas and I'm finally getting around to playing with it a bit. It seems to work great although it's a bit flimsy. Most carts run fine. However, some SNES carts, like Star Fox are exceedingly difficult to remove from the cart slot. I'm always afraid of breaking connector. Does anyone else have one of these things and if so how has it held up over time?
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Post by TrekMD on Jan 7, 2017 9:40:05 GMT -5
I've heard of these but I don't have one. I have a Retron N5. These systems usually have to be handled carefully as their build quality isn't always the best.
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Post by VectorX on Jan 7, 2017 10:09:52 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is the right place to talk about this Close, it was in the Collection pics sub-forum, rather than the Miscellaneous gaming forum, so I moved it. Never heard of this one.
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Post by kokovec on Jan 7, 2017 17:13:46 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is the right place to talk about this Close, it was in the Collection pics sub-forum, rather than the Miscellaneous gaming forum, so I moved it. Never heard of this one. I almost posted there. Should have followed my instincts. As for the Trio, I really like it. Once in a while you have to re-insert the cart to get it to work but once it does it's rock solid. I was playing it on my CRT TV for a while but decided to move it across the room to my LCD TV. I used this Kanex Pro to convert the video to 720 HD. I have two LCDs, both Vizios. My 23" is 1080P and my 53" which is 4K. My 23" works best at 720P@60HZ. My 53" works best at 4Kx2K@30Hz. I set up both TVs in "Game" mode to reduce lag. Both TVs produced a pretty good image considering the S-Video source. There was some scan line doubling and color saturation/bleeding but that's to be expected given the resolution and frame rate conversion from 240P. The lag is s different story. The 53" inch had almost a second of lag which rendered games unplayable. The 23" had a much smaller amount of lag (maybe on the order of 5 frames) which is actually playable once you get used to it. I guess I could purchase a Framemeister but it's tough to justify spending $300 for a $69 Trio.
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Post by wyldephang on Jan 7, 2017 21:28:28 GMT -5
A second of input lag? Terrible! I couldn't imagine dealing with that. I'm lucky that I've had nothing but good experiences hooking my classic consoles up to modern HD televisions. I wonder where the issue originates--whether it's the TV or the console.
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Post by VectorX on Jan 7, 2017 22:25:36 GMT -5
^I'd guess it's the tv. The console can't predict how it's going to respond to a piece of equipment decades later than what was around and what it was built for at the time. Or did you mean the much newer Retro Trio?
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Post by kokovec on Jan 8, 2017 14:25:02 GMT -5
It's most likely a combination of the converter/scaler and the TV. I was trying to minimize the processing that the TV has to do by using one of it's native formats. My 53" TV only worked at 4K resolution so I'm guessing the converter takes longer to perform the A/D and then upscale to 4K. My smaller TV is HD and so I'm limited to 720P or 1080P so the converter probably doesn't have to work as hard.
The Trio itself has almost no discernible lag when being played on an old school CRT.
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