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Post by kokovec on Apr 29, 2020 0:04:51 GMT -5
people have different world views and I don't think you can fairly criticize another's idea of how the world operates and its values using your value system. Sorry to be a moral relativist. Ah... the infamous Socratic paradox. |
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Post by robocelot on Jul 4, 2020 18:26:10 GMT -5
Why do authors have to bignote themselves in such high regard when, in my opinion, all games should be released into the public domain and bugger the authors who must rate themselves oh so highly above all else.
Considering the technical barriers to creating a new game (cost of development hardware, time spent learning to program and bugtesting) do you think all of that should be sucked up by the authors and just handed to you on a plate for free entertainment's sake? Although I do own a Vec multicart, I am not in favour of them. And in saying that why do certain multicart developers have to stamp their big name on carts either, and make big bucks out of poor and trying Vectrex programmers. God help them if the students of the professor's games are included on these multicarts too. The students did a great job.
So, who among the multicart producers is doing this? The ones I know will not include a binary if the author wishes it or will remove a binary if the author objects to it's inclusion. BTW, I don't think there's as much 'big bucks' as you think there are in multicarts. The games 'those poor students' created technically would be property of the educational institution that hosted the course. Another thing regarding 'Spike Goes Down.' I have emailed Alex Herbert for probably a decade now and I have also seen other posts on this forum that suggest Alex is no longer with us. I really think people just don't want to see Spike Goes Down to be released into the public domain as it will make their Protector LE carts decrease in value. That's just being selfish and self centered.
Now you're just spitballing baseless specuations on people's motives and/or the state of their health. If Alex doesn't want Protector LE or SGD publicly released then that is the final word on the subject and you should respect that. There is no grand conspiracy to keep you from playing SGD or keep the value of Protector LE high. In the interest of fairness we are just as free to speculate on your motives for writing your post. Never have I seen so much pseudo-intellectual drivel written just because someone wants to play a game for free. There's lots of this "Information must be free" BS floating around the ROM collecting community. Quite frankly, I'm getting tired of these types not even asking, but demanding I dump a prototype and give them the binary all because "they wanna". The internet is all about free information for the people in the first place.
I suggest you read up on some history (and perhaps go take a refresher Journalism course on research skills and fact checking). This was never the original intention behind linked computer systems. Since you like things handed to you for free I'll give you this to get to started: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
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Post by kokovec on Jul 4, 2020 19:11:30 GMT -5
This thread makes me sad.
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Post by gliptitude on Jul 22, 2020 20:41:03 GMT -5
The internet is all about free information for the people in the first place.
I suggest you read up on some history (and perhaps go take a refresher Journalism course on research skills and fact checking). This was never the original intention behind linked computer systems.
Since you like things handed to you for free I'll give you this to get to started:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
I think the casual application of liberal values to the internet is a very big problem and one of the main ingredients in the global strife that is currently gripping all of humanity. I'm not sure I agree on the history, especially nubiandaze's term being "the internet" not "linked computer systems". The fact is there are many business, legal and tech vanguards who have promoted the internet in a similar fashion to nubiandaze's interpretation and built it that way. It wouldn't have occured to him otherwise and I don't think you'd be responding so urgently either if it wasn't a widespread interpretation, i.e. you wouldn't feel alarmed or provoked if nubiandaze was a pure anomaly. WE HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO HOARD FREE STUFF FROM THE INTERNET. There is a 2003 documentary/video essay called Das Netz that I highly recommend, which reviews some of this history and presents some troubling philosophical questions: archive.org/details/DasNetz_LutzDammbeckHe gets some intimate interviews with early internet business leaders, as well as computer scientists, some of whome were quite cavalier and adventurous in their work. There are some comparisons made to the inception of counter culture and experimental drugs being something seeded in the U.S.A. by military and intelligence operations, not just the drugs themselves but the actual culture that evolved. I also recommend reading this more recent article, Why Technology Favors Tyranny, which very clearly assesses many of the current extreme hazards presented by the internet, and some of the big questions posed by evolving technologies: www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/yuval-noah-harari-technology-tyranny/568330/.. I don't know if anyone will actually watch/read these things, but they are each relevant to some of the things going on here, and in my opinion more amusing than the dispute over witheld homebrews, which I think is a mostly settled debate. I think many engineers and programmers would consider these two links fanciful and alarmist but maybe interesting. Yuval Harari, author of the above article, also did a video interview with Mark Zuckerberg a year or so ago and it is a little strange to watch the titan of social media engaged by an academic historian/philosopher, during a break from his corporate adventures. |
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Post by hcmffm on Jul 26, 2020 2:55:56 GMT -5
Some thoughts from my side: - I don't like the aggression in the title of the article and now in the topic title.
- From my point of view it's the authors right to decide what to happen with his/her creation. Be it a painting or be it a piece of software. With software things seem to be different because you can duplicate something with no effort and it seems as if you don't harm anyone. But in fact the situation remains the same situation.
- In life one has to learn that you cannot have it all. Appreciation and renunciation are things that people should learn. Appreciation for all the things we have. Most people reading this live better than than kings or queens about 500 years ago. And renunciaton is more and more important in this modern times were people have comparatively much money and can buy lots of things.
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Post by kokovec on Jul 26, 2020 11:12:21 GMT -5
Some thoughts from my side: Most people reading this live better than than kings or queens about 500 years ago. And renunciaton is more and more important in this modern times were people have comparatively much money and can buy lots of things. [/li][/ul] [/quote] When my father bought me a Vectrex back in the early 80's it was a large sacrifice for him and I knew very well that money could have been better used elsewhere. He was raising 4 kids on a very small salary. We had a small home that needed repairs, an old car that was constantly breaking down and I was the only boy which meant my sisters all wore hand-me-downs so that my mom could buy me clothes for school. When I think about my father, growing up as a child in Germany during WWII, and the stories he'd tell I certainly wasn't justified in whining about not having the latest gaming console. I can't even fathom the thought of him collecting retro trinkets from his youth as that would have held no practical purpose. Every generation says that the next generation down is comparatively spoiled. Every generation is in fact correct in that assumption. The improvements that we enjoy in our lives today were afforded to us through other people's hard work. To ask someone who spent time, money and talent to build a game and demand they give it away for free is the very definition of entitlement. |
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